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upgrading GT1100S

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Randy Dunton Posted: 02-06-2019 1:10 PM

Hello !

what are my options to upgrade my GT1100S mount purchased in 1999 in order to use the latest control software and also support USB 3.0 on the scope?

Randy Dunton

Phoenix AZ

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If it is truly a Paramount GT-1100S, rather than the first-generation GT-1100, it should be equipped with a Bisque TCS (Telescope Control System). I would recommend that you verify this by confirming that the internal main board is one of the MKS series (it should be an MKS 3000, unless it was later refitted with a later model). See our Bisque TCS Identification document for help with this.

As long as you have an MKS-series control system, it can be used with the latest version of TheSkyX Professional Edition.

Randy Dunton:
…and also support USB 3.0 on the scope?

While the MKS 4000 and MKS 5000 feature USB communications, this is USB 2.0. None of our control systems has offered USB 3.0. Even USB 2.0 data rates are more than sufficient to handle the mount-control communications. If you are seeking to use USB 3.0 for peripheral devices (a camera, for instance), then this should be handled separately from the mount communications, such as by user-added through-the-mount cabling.

Brian S. Rickard
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Hello Brian, I looked at my instruction manual and it is clearly for a GT1100S, what would the software upgrade cost?

I was looking ot have USB 3.0 at the telescope for the camera, is it easy to add another cable through the mount?

kind regards,
Randy Dunton

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Randy Dunton:
…I looked at my instruction manual and it is clearly for a GT1100S…

I'd still recommend that you inspect the board(s) inside to confirm that you have an MKS 3000 (or later) control system.

Randy Dunton:
…what would the software upgrade cost?

Take a look at TheSkyX Pro Upgrade Options and FAQs. To qualify for one of these upgrades, you'll need to register your present serial number for TheSky (version 5 Level IV, perhaps?). If you try, but are told that it has already been registered, then it was to a different Software Bisque Community member account.

Randy Dunton:
…is it easy to add another cable through the mount?

The mount was designed with this in mind. However, if there are already other after-market cables so run, their presence may make it more difficult to add yet another.

Brian S. Rickard
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Thanks Brian,

I have registered my software and that seems to be done now, and looked at the options, thanks - I will upgrade once I understand if my mount can work with the new control software. How exactly am I to find the control system board? Which part of the mount is it located in?

The mount is completely stock, I am the original owner, so adding the cable should work it seems.

kind regards,
Randy

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Thank you for registering you TPoint for Windows and CCDSoft for Windows serial numbers. Do you also have your serial number for TheSky (version 5 Level IV, perhaps)? If so, I'd encourage you to register that, as well.

As a registered owner of TPoint for Windows, you are eligible to purchase the TPoint Add On Upgrade. (Note that TPoint for Windows is not compatible with TheSkyX).

Randy Dunton:
How exactly am I to find the control system board? Which part of the mount is it located in?

It is in the main housing, which contains the RA shaft. Remove the fasteners from the side panel (the one with the power and hand control connections), and move it aside sufficiently to see inside, yet preferably leave the cables connected. Then compare the main board inside with those illustrated in our Bisque TCS Identification document. If it matches any of them, then TheSkyX Professional Edition is compatible.

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Thanks Brian, I registered -The Sky- and now understand I need to disassemble the mount to see the board. Possibly when the weather is not cooperating, like this weekend. Assuming I find the MKS3000 all is well, what other possible controller could I find and what are my options of upgrading this? Can I get to an MKS3000 or 4000 in any case?

I see that the MKS5000 is not an option with my GT-1100s.

kind regards,
Randy

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I wouldn't equate opening a side panel with "disassembling the mount". It should be pretty easy. I think you can get the panel slid over enough to peer at the board inside even if the mount happens to be at a very low latitude (worst-case scenario).

Randy Dunton:
Assuming I find the MKS3000 all is well, what other possible controller could I find…?

Prior to the MKS 3000 telescope control system (TCS), we used a TCE-1 TCS in the original GT-1100 (non-S model). The TCE-1 uses a 12-volt power source, whereas all MKS-series TCSs (to date) use a 48-volt source. So, another way to verify that your Paramount is compatible with TheSkyX Professional Edition, is to confirm that it has a 48V DC power supply.

The other possibility is that it has a later MKS model, but that would be fine, also.

Randy Dunton:
…what are my options of upgrading this? Can I get to an MKS3000 or 4000 in any case?

If you have a lower MKS series, I think we still offer the option to upgrade a GT-1100S to the MKS 5000, though I'd need to verify that. We have discontinued the option to upgrade an original GT-1100 to an MKS-series TCS.

Randy Dunton:
I see that the MKS5000 is not an option with my GT-1100s.

That may be. Where did you see that?

Brian S. Rickard
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