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MCG/UGC example

Background

TheSky6 uses the Principal Galaxy Catalog (PGC) dataset over the other catalogs that are less complete/less accurate for the most part like the NGC/IC, MCG, VCC, Hick, Arp, etc.  The reason for this is the 900,000 galaxy entries in the current Principal Galaxy Catalog data is more complete and is the most accurate galaxy catalog overall, in regard to positions, sizes, and magnitudes of galaxies, and very easy to redistribute - with a royalty being paid!

Thumbnail images - Why? a picture is worth a thousand words!

In addition to using the PGC galaxy data TheSky also supplies black and white thumbnail images from the (arguably) first high resolution all sky mosaic - The Digitized Sky Survey. These images are taken at a resolution of 1.7 arcseconds/pixel, good detail, and accurate positions to be shown in TheSky display. Granted they are only black and white thumbnails but for the most part pretty colors do little for most galaxies, especially when position and size are important. But for those that feel they must have color read on!

So instead of M104 the Sombrero Galaxy being an oval it looks like the following.

Catalog data and image shown

Ovals or thumbnail you decide

Or this!

Color Hubble Image of M104

Can I add my own images? <- Yep!

Now this is not to say that other more accurate specialized galaxy catalogs do not exist they do but for overall galaxy plotting and searching for the masses TheSky6 chooses to use the PGC as the primary galaxy catalog by default since there isn't a better alternative at this writing.  Of course using TheSky6's Database Compiler ANY dataset within reason can be used.  That is, using SDB files is NOT recommended for datasets that exceed 100,000 entries or more because of data access times.  Any dataset that contains object entries with RA and DEC and additional text information can easily be compiled then searched, plotted, slewed to, using TheSky6.

 

Although the Principal Galaxy Catalog is being used it has also been cross referenced to the other common galaxy datasets like those mentioned above.  This allows you to search for objects by other common names/numbers like NGC 4565, Arp 218,  M66, or MCG-2-35-10.  But keep in mind the first entry for the data will come from the PGC information AND the plotted galaxy ellipse and or position and magnitude also come from the PGC data entry.

PGC - NGC Galaxy comparison example

To demonstrate the following shows a galaxy field centered on NGC7331 AKA PGC69327.

Note the descrepancies in these two datasets!

Hmm. Interesting!

By plotting both the PGC data AND the NGC together you can see they simply do not agree. Which is right? Technically neither is 100% accurate but the PGC data tends to offer more accurate sizes and positions for galaxies and is again why TheSky chooses it as the primary galaxy catalog.

Negative DSS photo in place!


 

Note: In addition to being negative the histogram has also been altered on the image to show the extent or size of the galaxies. So you can see that both datasets the PGC and NGC are not as accurate as possible but certainly very close and much better than previous entries! But again, why the thumbnails are a feature of TheSky!

MCG Galaxy Example

Example.  Let's say you want to find the galaxy "MCG-2-35-10".  In TheSky6 use Edit | Find and enter MCG-2-35-10.  Click Frame Object and Object Information on the Find dialog and you will be taken directly to the match and the information is displayed.  See below.

Edit | Find Dialog

Example MCG-2-35-10

TheSky6 returns the following data for this galaxy.

Object name: PGC 48179
Magnitude: 12.8
Equatorial: RA: 13h 38m 28s Dec: -09°49'47"(current)
Equatorial 2000: RA: 13h 38m 10s Dec: -09°48'04"
Horizon: Azim: 83°42'32" Alt: -26°27'57"
Size: 2.3 x 2.0
Visibility: Rise 12:50, Set 00:03
Transit time: 18:25
Object type: Spiral Galaxy
Source catalog: PGC (Principal Galaxies Catalog)
Type: SBm
Bar: B
Morphological code: 8.897
Radial velocity: 1117.330
Alias 1: DDO180
Alias 2: A1335-09
Alias 3: IRAS13355-0932
Alias 4: IRAS13355-0933
Alias 5: DENISP_G_J1338110-094747
Alias 6: DENISP_G_J1338110-094748
Position angle: 84°00'
Hour angle: -07h 41m 27s
Screen x,y: 349.00, 241.00
Sidereal time: 05:57
Click distance: 0.0000
Catalog number: 48179
Celestial type: 8
NGC/IC: 0
Julian date: 2453559.2840
Catalog: 0

Cross referencing the data

To see a list of other galaxy catalogs that have been cross referenced to the PGC or the MCG galaxies in our example use the Find dialog then go down to Non-Stellar list and EXPAND the entry "PGC cross Reference".   See Below.  Here are the other galaxy catalogs the PGC has been cross referenced to by name.

Other galaxy catalogs

Cross referenced to the PGC

For example.  If you wish to see the list of "Arp Peculiar Galaxies" expand the ARP entry in the list.  The 300+ Arp Galaxies are then individually listed.

List of Arp Galaxies

Scroll down the list to see all

Same for any of the other catalog listed like the MCG entries. 

Browsing the MCG data

Use Find rather than Browsing the entire list

NOTE: Scrolling down a list of thousands of entries can be cumbersome at best.  First try searching for the data with a regular Edit | Find and type in the entry.  If that does not yield the result you want due to Syntax or something else then you can resort to browsing the entire list.

Scroll down looong Enough!

And you will find your entry

Now to see exactly why the PGC data is being used over say the Morphological Catalog of Galaxies (MCG) data we will plot the original MCG dataset with the 29,003 entries from that catalog  in TheSky6 for comparison.  By searching the MCG SDB data for the same entry we get the following MCG entry.

 

Object name: MCG Galaxies: MCG-02-35-010
Magnitude: 13.0
Equatorial: RA: 13h 38m 32s Dec: -09°48'57"(current)
Equatorial 2000: RA: 13h 38m 14s Dec: -09°47'14"
Horizon: Azim: 121°29'27" Alt: +23°28'31"
Visibility: Rise 12:50, Set 00:03
Transit time: 18:25
Source catalog: Sky Database: MCG Galaxies
Type: MCG Number: MCG-02-35-010
Bar: NGC/IC number:
Type: Magnitude: 13.
Multiple: Major Axis (inner): 9.
DB field 5: Minor Axis (inner): 2.
Morphological code: Major Axis (full): 20.
Radial velocity: Minor Axis (full): 20.
Hour angle: -03h 29m 52s
Air mass: 2.51
Screen x,y: 268.00, 227.00
Sidereal time: 10:08
Click distance: 0.0000
Celestial type: 55
Index: 24903
Julian date: 2453559.4582
Catalog: 9

 

The reference marker on the following display is being plotted using the MCG data.  The complete MCG SDB used can be downloaded from the following page,
 

http://www.bisque.com/products/thesky/disk2.asp

Keep in mind there is no need to have the SDB for the MCG galaxies anymore because TheSky6 has taken care of this.

MCG versus PGC

But wait what is that bright star doing there?

And lastly using the photographs from the Palomar data known as the Digitized Sky Survey we have the following photograph of the field.  The photograph is not subject to galaxy positional errors since galaxies for the most part don't move appreciably over thousands of years unlike stars with high proper motion like Barnard's Star that actually move appreciably in a small amount of time like 5 years!  The photograph shows the accurate position and size of the galaxy in favor of the PGC catalog.

Photograph from the Palomar data

Look no bright star!

Why isn't there a photograph for every galaxy like there is for M51, NGC4565 and others?  Because when creating the black and white thumbnails from the Palomar Sky Survey 102 CD data thumbnails for ONLY galaxies that are larger than about 2.5 arc minutes in size were created to save space.

 

As to what the bright star is located at the center of the galaxy no it is not a super nova but rather it is another catalog error found in the "Guide Star Catalog".  The Guide Star catalog was created scanning the Palomar photographic plates and there were about 3 million entry errors of this kind.  The newer stellar catalogs used by TheSky6, USNO B1 subset, UCAC, Hipparcos/Tycho, are not prone to these kinds of erroneous entries.  Disable the GSC catalog using View | Stellar Options | Catalogs/Astrometry and the star will disappear. See below.
 

Disable GSC star plotting

To see proper motion on stars enable it here

For more complete details on how TheSky6 accesses data as well as more information explaining special cases please refer to the following in depth page

http://www.bisque.com/tom/data/data.asp

UGC Galaxy example

Nearly identical to the above MCG galaxy example above let's take galaxy UGC 8387.  First use the cross reference from the UGC data to the more accurate and more complete PGC data.  Edit | Find in TheSky6 and Expand the Non-Stellar PGC Cross reference to show the UGC individual entries.  By scrolling down the entries under the Non-Stellar PGC Cross reference | UGC you will find the entry for "UGC 8387".

 

Or simply use Edit | Find UGC8387.  TheSky6 returns the following for UGC 8387,

 

Object name: IC 883
Other ID: PGC 46560
Magnitude: 15.0
Equatorial: RA: 13h 20m 21s Dec: +34°09'43"(current)
Equatorial 2000: RA: 13h 20m 35s Dec: +34°08'23"
Horizon: Azim: 57°21'26" Alt: +14°29'55"
Size: 1.0 x 0.7
Visibility: Rise 22:18, Set 15:03
Transit time: 06:42
Object type: Irregular Galaxy
Source catalog: PGC (Principal Galaxies Catalog)
Type: Irr
Morphological code: 10.000
Radial velocity: 7030.540
Alias 1: UGC8387
Alias 2: CGCG189-54
Alias 3: ARP193
Alias 4: VV821
Alias 5: 1ZW56
Alias 6: IRAS13183+3423
Position angle: 144°00'
Hour angle: -06h 39m 36s
Air mass: 3.97
Screen x,y: 623.00, 463.00
Sidereal time: 06:41
Click distance: 0.0000
Catalog number: 46560
Celestial type: 9
NGC/IC: -883
Julian date: 2449718.7917
Catalog: 0

How can this be you may ask, surely you jest.  No I am not surely and yes I am completely serious ;).

 

Do you mean to tell me this galaxy is an IC galaxy, a UGC galaxy, and a PGC galaxy?! A resounding "YES", and then some.  Note the other entries above, Arp, CGC, VV82, and so on.

 

Again, the coordinates for galaxies that are found in the PGC data use the PGC size, position, and position angle, and magnitude.  Meaning the PGC data has precedence.

 

Now using the 102 Palomar Sky Survey image as created by TheSky6/CCDSoft we get the following image for a very small 5 arc minute field.  Because TheSky6 allows plotting both the NGC/IC and PGC data at the same time you can see both entries plotted for comparison.

 

Conclusion:  This is why TheSky6 uses the PGC data for galaxies and also why the thumbnail images are supplied!

Which is correct??

I will argue technically neither is 100% correct!

A Histogram stretch shows the true extent of the galaxy which is not encompassed even in the PGC galaxy entry.

Abell galaxy example

Keep in mind this is one single object out of potentially 1 billion+!

Please refer to the contents of the README file distributed with this dataset!
 

The PGC data is NOT cross referenced to the Abell Galaxy Clusters catalog.  Nor is the Abell/Zwicky Clusters SDB part of the "CORE" databases as distributed with TheSky.  The data is made available using an SDB file.  This is partly due to the fact these are not single object entries but rather very subjective positions for the centers of clusters of galaxies.  Therefore one cannot assign a set of galaxies to a single existing object.  The coordinates are theoretically the center of the cluster of galaxies.
 

Keep in mind that a position for a "cluster" of galaxies is far more subjective then a position for a single galaxy.  And magnitude simply doesn't apply nor does position angle or size.

 

Assuming you have the SDB file for the Abell Galaxy Clusters/Zwicky <- Click to download (included with TheSky6) you can search them using Edit | Find  Abell Galaxy Clusters followed by the number you want.   Or you can expand the SDB entry and see all of them listed individually as shown below.  Then you can scroll through the list.  If you want them centered and identified as you go enable "Frame Object" and/or "Object information" as shown below.

The Abell Galaxy Clusters SDB

Edit | Find Abell Galaxy Clusters 1716

TheSky using the SDB file right or wrong returns the following,

 

Object name: ABELL galaxy clusters: 1716
Magnitude: 0.0
Equatorial: RA: 13h 20m 41s   Dec: +33°55'37"(current)
Equatorial 2000: RA: 13h 20m 54s   Dec: +33°54'18"
Horizon: Azim: 57°30'16"   Alt: +14°18'02"
Visibility: Rise 22:20,  Set 15:02
Transit time: 06:43 
Source catalog: Sky Database: ABELL galaxy clusters
DB field 1: Abell cluster #: 1716
DB field 2: Mag 10th brightest: 17.8
DB field 3: Dist,Richness group: 6  1
DB field 4: Area (sq degrees):  0.147
Hour angle: -06h 39m 55s
Air mass: 4.02
Screen x,y: 623.00, 463.00
Sidereal time: 06:41
Click distance: 1.0000
Celestial type: 55
Index: 1715
Julian date: 2449718.7917
Catalog: 9

 

And a 2 degree field centered on the coordinates in the data using photograph from the Palomar Sky Survey (DSS) data shows the following,

Only two galaxies here in 2 degrees?
(Click for larger image)

Hmm..  Maybe the galaxy cluster covers many degrees?

Now make using the on-line Simbad database as a source make a query entering Abell Cluster 1716 and then ask for say 4 degrees of data around the coordinates they resolve.  Here is that query plotted in TheSky6.
 

Compare TheSky SDB position and the Simbad Query
for Abell Galaxy Cluster 1716


A 2 arcminute 22 arcsecond difference in position
placing the galaxy cluster center very near
galaxy PGC 2031988 very subjective!

The above turquoise markers are showing the entries created by performing a Simbad query around the object "Abell Galaxy Cluster 1716".  You can see the Core galaxies from TheSky plotted AND the new additions from the on-line up-to-date Simbad query.


The following is from the Simbad query performed today Dec 23rd, 2005.

 

Object name: Simbad Abell 1716: [SMB88] 1912
Magnitude: 0.0
Equatorial: RA: 13h 20m 21s   Dec: +33°27'17"(current)
Equatorial 2000: RA: 13h 20m 34s   Dec: +33°25'58"
Horizon: Azim: 57°55'47"   Alt: +14°03'36"
Visibility: Rise 22:22,  Set 14:58
Transit time: 06:42 
Source catalog: Sky Database: Simbad Abell 1716
DB field 1: Object Name: [SMB88] 1912
DB field 2: Object Number: [SMB88] 1912
DB field 3: MAGNITUDE:
DB field 4: otyp:    G
DB field 5: B&V Magnitudes:  16.609
DB field 6: Spectral Type:  Sa
DB field 7: nref: |    1
Hour angle: -06h 39m 35s
Air mass: 4.09
Screen x,y: 466.00, 538.00
Sidereal time: 06:41
Click distance: 0.0000
Celestial type: 54
Index: 228
Julian date: 2449718.7917
Catalog: 10

 

TheSky6 reports an angular separation of 2 arcminutes and 22 arcseconds when using the Simbad query on Abell 1716: [SMB88] 1912 versus that distributed with TheSky SDB (many years old).

What about the NED Abell Cluster 1716 query?

Object name: NED Data: ABELL 1716
Magnitude: 0.0
Equatorial: RA: 13h 20m 41s Dec: +33°55'37"(current)
Equatorial 2000: RA: 13h 20m 54s Dec: +33°54'18"
Horizon: Azim: 57°30'16" Alt: +14°18'02"
Visibility: Rise 22:20, Set 15:02
Transit time: 06:43
Source catalog: Sky Database: NED Data
DB field 1: Object Name: ABELL 1716
DB field 2: Object Number: 1
DB field 3: Velocity/Redshift km/sec z: 30000 0.182000
DB field 4: Qual:
DB field 5: Dist. arcminutes: 0.0
DB field 6: Refs Notes Phot: 13 0 0
DB field 7: Posn Vel/z Diam: 1 0 0
DB field 8: Assoc: 1
Hour angle: -06h 39m 55s
Air mass: 4.02
Screen x,y: 642.00, 370.00
Sidereal time: 06:41
Click distance: 0.0000
Celestial type: 72
Index: 0
Julian date: 2449718.7917
Catalog: 11

 

NOTE: This places the center of the galaxy cluster very near the entry from the SDB file distributed with TheSky!

Simbad query, NED query,
 and TheSky Abell Galaxies Clusters SDB


Who is right?

Since I knew you would ask.  A search of 120 arcminutes (2 degrees) in the NED page returns over 3,000 objects!  The first 3,000 are shown here.

Yellow markers from the NED databases

3,000 objects from NED

On-Line data access versus TheSky's data

One must consider the on-line databases can literally query terabytes of data, changes and updates can easily be made to the datasets, and these are usually very well funded some even using Tax Payers dollars.


Very few if any datasets are 100% accurate and a good number of them are being refined on a regular basis.  The use of TheSky's database compiler allows datasets to be accessed that simply did not exist when the media was burned or have under gone updates since.

 

Also note that major upgrades to TheSky do include the best datasets available at that point in time in an effort to supply the most accurate data whenever possible.

Source for the Abell Galaxy Clusters SDB file distributed with TheSky

 

                                             SSD-T-1-0338-0098-83

             DOCUMENTATI0N FOR THE MACHINE-READABLE VERSION OF THE
              CATALOGUE OF ABELL AND ZWICKY CLUSTERS OF GALAXIES
                        (BULGARIAN ACADEMY OF SCIENCES)

                                  April, 1983

                             Contract NAS 5-27393
                                Robert S. Hill

                                 Prepared for:
                 National Aeronautics and Space Administration             
                          Goddard Space Flight Center
                           Greenbelt, Maryland 20771

                                 Prepared by:
                   Systems and Applied Sciences Corporation
                       6811 Kenilworth Avenue, Suite 500
                           Riverdale, Maryland 20737

 
                          SECTION 1 - INTRODUCTION
A COPY OF THIS DOCUMENT SHOULD ACCOMPANY EVERY DISTRIBUTED COPY OF THE
MACHINE-READABLE CATALOGUE.
This document describes a machine-readable version of the "Catalogue of Abell
and Zwicky Clusters of Galaxies" prepared by the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences.
This catalogue consists of three files, as follows:
     File 1  -   Abell Clusters (Abell 1958)
     File 2  -   Zwicky Clusters (Zwicky et al. 1961-68)
     File 3  -   Zwicky Plate Number Cross-Identifications (Zwicky et al.
                 1961-68)                        
Files 1 and 2 contain some calculated quantities as well as the data from the
published versions of the catalogues.  File 3 connects the sequential numbering
of the Zwicky clusters in file 2 with Zwicky's own field and cluster numbers.
The Abell clusters are rich, compact clusters of galaxies identified by G. O.
Abell.  From these he selected a statistical sample for inferences about the
distribution of galaxies in space.  These clusters were identified on the red
plates of the Palomar Observatory Sky Survey (POSS).
The Zwicky clusters were identified by F. Zwicky in 560 POSS fields.  They are
rich clusters, each having at least 50 members within 3 magnitudes of the
brightest member.

REFERENCES:
Abell, G. O. 1958, Astrophys. J. Suppl. 3, 211.
Corwin, H. G. 1974, Astron. J. 79, 1356.
Hill, R., Documentation for the Machine-Readable Version of the Catalogue of
     Galaxies and of Clusters of Galaxies: Data on Individual Galaxies, SASC,
     Document #SSD-T-1-5069-022-82.
Kalinkov, M., Stavrev, K. and Kaneva, I. 1975, Astron. Zh. (Letters) 1, no. 2,7.
de Vaucouleurs, G., de Vaucouleurs, A., Corwin, H. G. 1976, Second Reference
     of Bright Galaxies (Austin, University of Texas).
Zwicky, F., Herzog, E., Wild, P., Karpowicz, M. and Kowal, C. T. 1961-68,
     Catalogue of Galaxies and of Clusters of Galaxies (Pasadena, California
     Institute of Technology, 6 vols.).

                    SECTION 4 - REMARKS AND MODIFICATIONS
 The Catalogue of Abell and Zwicky Clusters of Galaxies was received by
 the Astronomical Data Center (ADC), NASA Goddard Space Flight Center,
 from the Centre de Donnees Stellaires (CDS) in 1979.  The catalogue had
 been prepared originally by the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences.  As
 received, the catalogue contained a file of documentation in addition to
 the three data files.  Section 2 of this document merely expands on that
 documentation file.  The only modifications to the catalogue format made
 at the ADC are as follows:
 (1) The sign of declination was moved so that it always appears in the
     same byte (all three files).
 (2) The declination of Zwicky cluster no. 2343 was given as -2 deg 21
     arcmin and the type as 6, due to transposition of digits; the correct
     values are -2 deg 26 arcmin and 1, respectively.  This correction was
     made to file 2, and to file 3 as well, since the incorrect
     declination had been carried over there.